Kirill86

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Nov 22, 2019
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I'd be interested to see this page in two years so we can note the % turnover as sub numbers change/drop.

Credit card expiration dates will eventually stop zombie supporters from contributing to any creator and neither of us can identify who is an active sub versus a zombie sub from this image.

Cheers!! :coffee:
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p.s. i was 30$ subscriber at 0.130, but my name only appeared from 0.170 when LP changed this page. Conclusion? He also doesn't care about updating this page and the presence of names here doesn't mean anything
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Radoslaw Wolf

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May 23, 2017
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p.s. i was 30$ subscriber at 0.130, but my name only appeared from 0.170 when LP changed this page. Conclusion? He also doesn't care about updating this page and the presence of names here doesn't mean anything
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He is just as organized with his PR, as he is with his PM...
 

palmtrees89

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Jul 3, 2021
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This is just yet another one of his yearly statements. It's in the same category as; "This year I'm gonna hire help to increase development speed.".

Billion dollar franchises with their AAA developers and hundreds if not thousands of employees are unable to make their games pirate-proof, but L&P is obviously better. He's the best, and every single one of his statements has turned out to be the truth. He would never lie, and this statement of his is totally not him being salty. It's all real and true.

The latest $45 "teaser" was totally worth it, no? Dylan vs. Ellie in a staring contest. HOLY MOLY!
 

tofhdns

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Jan 25, 2021
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p.s. i was 30$ subscriber at 0.130, but my name only appeared from 0.170 when LP changed this page. Conclusion? He also doesn't care about updating this page and the presence of names here doesn't mean anything
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I don't understand.

You were interested enough in it to check the credits screen, so why didn't you complain/demand this developer?
It was your right.

And this became further evidence of this developer's insincerity and irresponsibility.

And your words made my estimate calculation meaningless and your words "us much more than 50" also made meaningless.
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dkatryl

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May 26, 2018
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I'd say after six years you have enough data to extrapolate on the next two. Zombies may go away, but will the Kirils..?
Also, PayPal linked to a chequing account never expires. He'll be just fine. Cheers!
That just seems foolish. :unsure:

You can dispute credit card charges.

Much harder if it's on a debit, as that comes directly out of your checking. And i would never want something like Paypal pointed directly at my checking for that reason.
 

dkatryl

Active Member
May 26, 2018
706
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This is just yet another one of his yearly statements. It's in the same category as; "This year I'm gonna hire help to increase development speed.".

Billion dollar franchises with their AAA developers and hundreds if not thousands of employees are unable to make their games pirate-proof, but L&P is obviously better. He's the best, and every single one of his statements has turned out to be the truth. He would never lie, and this statement of his is totally not him being salty. It's all real and true.

The latest $45 "teaser" was totally worth it, no? Dylan vs. Ellie in a staring contest. HOLY MOLY!
Unless he plans to imbed some custom file that he is then going to keep a database on to cross-reference every download with every sub, then it seems all the one that wants to upload it to pirate sites would need to do is unzip/rezip, and you've just changed its digital fingerprint.

And even if he *did* imbed some custom thing to track it, what's to stop them from just making a new Patreon account? :unsure:

Either way, sounds like a lot of talk and empty promises, to which like everything else from this dude, believe if when we see it. :rolleyes:
 

Radoslaw Wolf

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May 23, 2017
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That just seems foolish. :unsure:

You can dispute credit card charges.

Much harder if it's on a debit, as that comes directly out of your checking. And i would never want something like Paypal pointed directly at my checking for that reason.
As neither would I. However, it might depend on jurisdiction, but having PayPal in two countries - that's by default.
 

Radoslaw Wolf

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May 23, 2017
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And even if he *did* imbed some custom thing to track it, what's to stop them from just making a new Patreon account? :unsure:
Technically nothing, but he is capable of naming the person, making them an example, slowing things even more and blame it on the poor soul. Also, great pretext to create higher tier.
Unless there is something in Patreon TOS he can actually use? IDK. From what I heard here, he threatened someone with a lawsuit even for an attempt to help him...
 
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