The Brilliant Remake of Pikes Peak in Trackmania
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2025
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As much as I appreciate the credits, and while I indeed did the map, the map is a port of an Assetto Corsa track.
Full credits goes to SIM TRAXX which did the original 3d scanning and made the Assetto Corsa track. It is VERY detailed and is beautiful. If you have Assetto Corsa, please check it out.
That being said, it was a long process of removing, optimizing, baking and suffering to do this port. It is still way above the 7Mb limit, but it is quite optimized still. The original map has much more detailed textures.
Thanks for playing the map tho, hope you enjoyed it, both as players and viewers!
thank you for doing this!
hey you still brought a legendary course to TM! Excellent work man, im gonna check both versions of the track out this weekend!
Very cool! I can't wait to play it myself
Thanks for the port! It's a sick map!
Can you do this with the Nurburgring?? Maybe other tracks to like Bathurst etc
I grew up in Colorado Springs and have driven up and down Pikes Peak Highway many times. It’s so weird to see a map where I know the turns ahead of time. It is an incredible drive. FUN FACT: The “house” that Wirtual pointed out is a brake check area on the way down, if your brakes are too hot they make you pull over and let them cool off. P.S. For those afraid of driving up, there is also a train that goes to the summit as well.
Also, it just so happens there's a gift shop there for you to wait in while your brakes cool down.
I love narrow gauge railroads in the Rockies and everywhere else, so many random great strories
@Herringbone0920 Fellow Hyce viewer?
i want to drive it up so much. i love driving up the mountain in my city, but the mountain here is not even 1000 meters in the highest peak if i recall correctly.
the road itself and the scenery seems captivating.
if i am lucky with my next job, maybe
The signs at the start for "Phil Long Ford" take me back to my childhood
edit: oh man Bank at Broadmoor, I opened my first checking account there with my paychecks from Tinseltown USA in 2000. God I am so old. How is a wirtual video giving me nostalgia hits?
The interesting fact about Pikes Peak is that it's one of the cases where fully electric cars have a huge advantage and the current record is also held by one. The elevation means thinner air so combustion engines make less and less power the further up you go, which doesn't affect electric cars, and battery range is not an issue for a time attack scenario like it would be for circuit racing.
And also, a lot of the track was not even paved in ye olde days. Imagine sending it in old shitboxes with no aero, on gravel roads.
That part about the track originally being mostly gravel is a story in and of itself, with the legendary Audi Sport Quattro S1 E2 holding a record on it as the fastest Pikes Peak run on gravel that can never be taken again. I wonder how one would recreate that experience in Assetto Corsa or Trackmania?
The change in altitude also effects downforce so that's why the unlimited class entries have such massive aero packages.
Also the fact that electric cars accelerate faster, which is especially helpful in tracks with corners
It was only fully paved in 2011, which is shockingly recent.
The Vatanen climb with one hand to cover his eyes from the sun next to the edge, absolutely legendary
"how am i still forgetting things" is a real problem for the IRL guys too... Plenty of people miscount a turn and yeet themselves into the trees every year because of oopsie...
That's a pretty horrifying oopsie ngl😢
My dad raced the Pikes Peak Rally in the 1970s. They used to have a motorcycle division. It wasn't always paved all the way to the top. I was born in Woodland Park, just down the road. Love the race...its super cool if you ever get the chance.
Yeah, the fact that it used to be gravel is completely bonkers. Walter Roehrls run in the legendary audi will imo forever be the greatest run up the mountain. Insane track.
Way back in the day it wasn't paved even one bit, absolutely insane to think about driving this top to bottom in what was at the time very high powered vehicles completely on gravel
@6:30 Wrt why they had the road so long ago: there's a theory called external mountain road theory, which posits that it was used for getting stuff like humans and food up the mountain. Whether you're willing to believe that kind of thing is up to you.
Criminally underrated reply; 10/10 would upvote again
Hopefully they upscale the terrain so the rocks can tell us more
It took me a minute to realize that you were being facetious and I was like, "yeah?! Like what roads are for?!"
@@user-svqmbiv he's also riffing on wirtual constantly talking about different theories about how they built the pyramids i.e. the internal ramp theory
As a Colorado Springs native that can see the mountain from my back deck and that has been to the summit by car and by cog, this video is very surreal. I remember the highlight of it being my dad buying my sister and I those wacky flavored lollipops at the gift shops that were so big they’d last us the the whole ride home.
Kyou avatar spotted
@ Yeah XD I’ve had her as my profile picture and Elfen Lied as my channel banner for as long as I’ve been on the site basically. Every few years, I toy with the idea of updating to something new but just never have the heart to go through with it.
@@TheVectornaut Respect, I used to rock a dango for a long time, might actually go back to it :)
"in real life its a no reset run" spoken like a true gamer
If your afraid to push a car in real life then the absolute best thing you can do is autocross. Perfectly flat tarmac, usually a parking lot or old airport runway, just going through cones and you still get to get all of the fast memorization of a COTD qualifying runs while pushing yourself and whatever car your driving to it's absolute limits. some places are really cheap to enter and you can use any car you want. Some of the most fun I've ever had in my life
Ha, ha, autocross in Europe is a totally different thing. Search for "FIA European Autocross Championship" to find out.
Agree, when I still had my z4 I also did some autocross. The people were all so chill, just friendly competition. Unfortunately still way more expensive than tm tho
Finding a good track day event that's time trials instead of door to door is a good idea too. Gives you the track experience with less risk than regular racing
Plus you don't need a lot of horsepower!
Can I bring my 248hp, 2.5 ton minivan?
The editor deserves a few more breadcrumbs for including the rally video. Great job!
Here's a thought, pick a couple maps Wirt hasn't done and that are hard to read, have someone go through them and make pace notes. Then have someone sit with him in voice and he gets one try per map and see how well he does.
This could be a track creating revolution in Trackmania.
I hope they can faithfully recreate iconic places like Mount Haruna (Mount Akina in Initial D), Mount Akagi, Irohazaka, Myogi Pass, Usui Pass, the racetracks in MF: Ghost like Hakone, and others in Trackmania.
Edit: also the expressways of Japan, which is the setting of Wangan Midnight, and yes, it's inspiration was the infamous Midnight Club.
dude Akina would go so hard
Could you do a reaction to ken block drifting up this?
For real! I’d love for the InitialD and MF Ghost tracks to be made, I’d give it a go, but I am very bad at track creating
Ile of Man Tourist Trophy track, it would be mental with the speed the car could reach :D
@@tiranori like the idea, but make it a full-speed type of map.
Another fun thing to note about how hard it is, when you climb in altitude throughout the course, whatever downforce you have diminishes as the air pressure goes down, and you will lose grip with time, compound that with tires degradation when you race at an all out pace.
As well as that, the air density differs at the peak so much that engines can lose as much as 150 horsepower as they climb the mountain
Driving up Pike's Peak SLOWLY is terrifying, I can't imagine trying to fast, pure insanity
Up until about the mid 2000s, the Pikes Peak hillclimb was entirely dirt, so by the time you got to the already quick hillclimb cars of the 80s and 90s (still doing it all on dirt), I can't even begin to imagine how scary that would've been. Check out a video called "Climb Dance" from 1990, showing rally legend Ari Vatanen caning a Peugeot 405 T16 up the dirt Pikes Peak to see what I mean.
Came here to make sure someone had mentioned Climb Dance.
Also worth watching some of Rhys Millen's runs over the years.
My buddy Scott had a cool old truck he raced Pikes Peak in, and unfortunately lost his brakes before a tight corner and flew the truck off the mountain IRL! Truck was completely destroyed but he walked away unharmed. The guys who actually make these runs are genuinely a little off.
Must have had really strong roll cage and other safety measures. As one should expect in a crazy race like that.
The first half of this comment seemed ominous
Glad Scott is ok
Sucks about his truck
the 1949 ford f1 by chuckles garage? i saw that video, was heartbreaking to see the truck get totalled😔at least he was fine
@@wombat4191 Yeah the only rules for the open class are all safety rules. That's what makes the even so cool, you can bring whatever crazy thing you have as long as it has all the safety equipment
Old Smokey?!?!?! That thing is genuinely one of the coolest race cars ever built. It was so sad to see it go but at least your friend is ok!!
23:01 "To the peak of the valley" 🗣
😂
The peak of the (surrounding) valley is how I understood it.
11:11 Me and the editor are sharing a brain cell 😂
From the Screen 📺 To the Ring 🥊 To the Pen 🖊 To the King 👑
Yeah that’s my bling 💍 always drama 🎭 when I ring 📞
From the beer🍺 to the keys🔑 to the car🚗 to the tree🌲where my crime👮🏽 that’s my thing no one else is at risk👳🏼♂️
One of the challenges is also the lack of oxygen, because the mountain has 4000m of elevation and in the pass you climb 1400m, as you get higher the oxygen decreases making it harder to breathe and subsequently stay focused and conscious during the run.
And since oxygen decrease, engines lose power. It is said that a 1000hp engine will do 600hp at the top (estimated 40% decrease).
That's also why electric cars have been crushing the records lately. Firstly because they accelerate way faster, but also because they don't lose any power when losing oxygen
Lower downforce also for lower density air
@@zaimsyahmi7080at that point i can also mention lower gravity
@@bmx22c that's true! I completely forgot about mentioning the loss of power with the decrease of oxygen, which makes it almost obligatory to turbo/supercharge cars to reduce that problem. also, the lack of air produces a lack of downforce, making the car a lot more difficult to control
@@ignaciotomasiElectric cars don't have this problem and I think I heard an electric car has the record now
Greetings from Colorado Springs! Really cool to see my towns mountain on your channel, I love driving this route in the summer on my motorcycle.
That’s cool
Hello also from Colorado Springs!
Hello from CS as well
COS gang rise up
springs gang
I’ve seen someone propose at 3:23 next to the flat-ish wall right after the turn! They had some biodegradable paint that they put on the wall and everything for the proposal!
Ben from the RUclips channel Gears & Gasoline also proposed on Pike's Peak.
As impressive as Loeb’s run is, I think Ari Vatanen’s run in the Peugeot 405 T16 is even more impressive. Back then, the road was still dirt, and the car was just sliding around everywhere. There are some absolutely great images of this run, because a little movie was filmed around it, called Climb Dance, it’s definitely worth checking out. My favorite part is when Ari is driving one-handed and using his other hand as a sun visor, all while going around 150 km/h.
I've lived in Colorado for almost all of my life and have been to Pikes Peak and watched Pikes Peak International Hill Climb a handful of times, seeing it in TM and from Assetto Corsa makes me happy. Such a cool and historic road that become a one of the highest tracks on earth for the mornings of a weekend. Also, Wirtuals initial struggles to remember the track just proves why it's such a popular and difficult hill climb, because imagine remembering the track, at 2.8+ km of altitude where the closer you get to the summit of 14,110 ft. which is 4.3 km. You start to really struggle to get enough oxygen to both yourself and to the cars engine, meaning electric cars have an advantage.
That brings back good memories to my favorite track in "Collin Mc Rae: DiRT". Going up that mountain top with the views at end was a quite remarkable experience at that time.
This is the sort of stuff that brings back childhood memories of daydreaming a hypothetical game that would let you drive across any part of the world seamlessly in supercars.
I feel like if the right people were willing we could see that exact game in a few years.
Makes me think about the insane detail of Microsoft Flight Sim maps. Satellite scans can absolutely generate the raw stock of the map at this point, it's the cleanup that's the thing that probably makes it nonviable at the moment.
@@yvannairieWell and coding polygons for all the different surfaces... although MSFS gets the height of buildings which seems a similar scale of problem
@ Yup, like, there are fairly trivial ways to use multiple satellite photos to create a ground mesh of the appropriate dimensions, but it's imperfect. Early versions of Google Earth, for example, did not have a bridge over the Golden Gate, just a funkily stretched photograph at sea level. There's still a lot of work that needs to go into cleanup, populating the map with stuff that doesn't show up as cleanly in photographs such as forests, cleaning up building facades so they look good up close -- but I also think a lot of that stuff can be automated with some clever prefab sampling.
We're not quite there yet. But Flight Sim is an incredible leap forward in what can be accomplished for now, and the technology is constantly improving.
I lived next to pike peak and my dad grew up there so i can give some context. The track used to be a combination of paved and gravel, but in recent years its become fully paved for safety, which also made for better times as you can run slicks. As for danger, when me and my brother went to one around 2014-ish a bike rider died, I think they said he failed to slow down for the finish line and flew himself off the mountain, its all one road so finishers have to wait the entire race until the road is clear so they can all come back down together and there's not a lot of stopping area. Also, in the much more distant past, my dad said he knew a family where two of the brothers had tried racing Pikes Peak and at some point both had died. A very sad story so it has a mixed opinion to locals, even though the whole event of it is fun
The Phil Long ad at the beginning is also killing me, its a big local car dealership that you see local ads for all the time
COLORADO MENTIONED RAHHH
I remember not long ago watching a video of some guys taking a Model T up pikes peak. Was pretty cool. Had no idea it was a famous road.
I started watching this and went like "this feels familiar..."
It's surreal seeing a video where I know all the turns of the track ahead of time. I grew up in Colorado, and have driven up Pikes Peak on multiple occasions. It's genuinely a really fun stretch of road to drive - even just driving the speed limit.
This was very fun to watch.
11:56 Also, Blue Line was a wonderful music choice.
Very DougDoug-esque
I've driven this road irl (at a normal, non racing speed of course). I would highly recommend it to anybody who's in Colorado. Beautiful drive with an incredible view at the top.
Pikes Peak to cars is what Isle Of Man is to motorbikes. It's one of the most extreme motorsport challenges of all time.
Mr Editor really made this awesome with the side by sides. very high quality video, nice work
So, fun fact: originally the Pikes Peak ascent was gravel. The road was paved over the course of nine years between 2002 and 2011.
It’s also worth mentioning Pikes peak is only recently paved all the way to the summit. They paved to the summit in 2011. Can’t imagine how terrifying it would be with the drops on the shoulder when it was a dirt road driving flat out.
I was .3%percent viewer for you this year, you were my number one content creator i watched, much live wirtual, thanks for the content
may i just say: this is great content. i have been playing trackmania in the veery early days and quickly migrated to sim racing. this melange of all of it is so satisfying to watch. thank you for sharing and thanks for crossing the boundaries between hardcore trackmania and hardcore sim racing. truly an ambassador.
"risk it but for what?" The biscuit of course. Duh.
I remember watching the Nürburgring video
It was actually the first of your videos and the first trackmania video I ever saw and now I watch your videos all the time
fun facts:
1. The pikes peak record by Sebastian Lobe was highly controversial because they changed the dirt road for actual road.
2. The world record for the pikes peak track was done by an electric car because the problem normal car run into is the altitude.
The Art of Rally soundtrack was sublime
Really love these offstream videos just as much as the steamed ones. I'm not sure why the vibe of them is so different but its great content and editing and everything every time
this is a breath of fresh air, I really wish there were more realistic trackmania maps.
I'm a spectator who photographs the race and practice sessions with a vintage camera this map looks so good and is incredibly accurate. I don't know if trackmania can effects of road quality the higher up you go because the road quality does get worse the higher up you travel but overall this map is sick
The Trackmania community is absolutely insane, poring goggle maps scenery into the game is nuts
it's probably not that hard tbqh
there are tools that can already do this and if you are proficient in modeling and modding in trackmania it would just be another project
The Trackmania community is insane indeed, but this one is a ported track from an Asseto Corsa mod. Still an awesome and long work from bmx22c making sure the track works properly and doesn't crash the game, but the ones porting google map into games and 3D scanning the roads are the Asseto Corsa community
I've hiked this mountain and my uncle was one of those people in the race cars to speed up it. He actually rolled his car off a cliff and fell a long way down and survived.
Thank you editor for putting all this jazzy bg music in the video! Much appreciated catKISS
These google Maps graphics remind me a lot for the very first Colin Mc Rae Rally games on the original Playstation. I hope there will be more of these Maps in the future! Love the vid!
For anyone struggling to drive this: Look up at the next turn, if the road lines are close together or you cant see all lines, the turn is sharp. And if the lines are far apart the turn is wide and you can preserve more speed going into it
I was lucky enough to be able to the event with my dad this past year. It was an incredible race despite having to sit there for 14 hours due to so many rookies who couldn't handle the mountain. But seeing Robdom's 3 rotor and seeing two of the drivers getting married at the top of the mountain after finishing, if you haven't seen the race in person i highly recommend it.
Also to answer your question at 4:00 the entire mountain is now fully paved so because of so many uncertain weather conditions leading up to the race, the surface of the road seems to change and very every year.
I had a tank slapper at 265kmh on one of my motorcycles. That was a very scary experience, and the closest I've been to death. Driving on a track is technically safer than public roads. You have run off space and walls designed to take hits
170 bpm is not due to stress. Loeb is a very experienced world champion rally driver and would not be experiencing that level of stress from a hill climb.
170 bpm is due to the sheer physicality and focus required to drive a race car at those speeds.
so... one might say it stresses the body? due to sheer physicality and focus?
stress doesnt have to be emotional
@@williaml8868 yes but also it’s not because he was thinking about his family or going off track.
He’s 9x wrc champion, drove in wtcc, dakar, rallycross. These guys don’t think about dying while driving.
@@williaml8868 that is being pedantic. Wirtual was talking about the emotional stress, not physical stress. OP was just correcting that, because both are very different things, despite using the same word
@@williaml8868 me when i ignore the point completely
@@williaml8868 Sure but Wirtual was obviously implying emotional stress in my mind.
2:36 Wirtual flies off of Pikes, never to be seen again.
I used to have this track memorized on Assetto Corsa, driving the Sebastian Loeb's Peugeout 208. Fun times.
What i love about this map is you get a glimpse of the peaks from the bottom, in my brain its just scenery but then you're on top and realize this is the peak you see from the bottom.
This road is terrifying to drive in real life at normal speed. Fun video!
I've been partly up pikes peak once, when we were on a big trip to colorado for a high school robotics competition. Due to recent weather and snow still melting, we were not permitted to go past mile 13 (that little "village" area), but it was still a cool trip, and seeing somewhere I've actually (partially) been recreated in trackmania is pretty cool
The last long trip that me and my dad took on our motorcycles before he was unable to ride his was pikes peak, was such a hit of nostalgia seeing this video that i had to send it to him... You did it so much faster than we did 😂 such a fun drive tho 10/10 would recommend at a slower pace than wirtual
How on Earth does this keep happening??? Third video in two days by a great creator I have spotted in less than 10 minutes. This is so hype
7:58 Damn, when that Drift City OST came in, a wave of ijji nostalgia washed over me. Thank you for that, Bass. ❤
colorado springs resident here! really glad to see pikes peak in trackmania, its a stunning drive and 100% worth it if you get the chance!
Watching you driving this brings flashbacks from Scrapie runs... And he cooked so hard this one... GL getting this, I hope you will get WR
An isle of man track would be awesome too
I have it in Blender but it is something else 💀 In Pikes Peak I could optimize it because there's nothing except 2-3 houses and the scenery.
On Isle of Man you have road, scenery and all of the houses (and there are a lot scattered around the track)
@@bmx22c Which tool do you use to import Blender meshes into the TM map editor, or which TM version do you need for this? And also, why are houses a problem?
big bravo to the editors for adding irl footage to the corner. that was really awesome to see
I drove through the USA this year eastcoast to westcoast and this was one of my favourite parts of the drive! Such a beautiful area. Only then it was followed by 2 days of Nebraska and Iowa 😂😂
Nice video bass ❤️ i liked the musik when he was grinding. I hope to see Wirt challange the wr :D looks like a fun map ^^
Real life driving is like trackmania but if you crash you are banned from every game permanently
That’s where I live!!! You guys are all half a word away & I never thought worlds would collide. Cheers from the Olympic City! Colorado Springs, CO.
I think it'd be a fun video/stream segment for wirtual to talk over an irl run of this after learning the route
This is SICK! Pikes Peak is so legendary in the racing world. Would love to see you do a hunt on it!
Thia map is a mod for Assetto Corsa. It was just ported/changed slightly for TrackMania.
Yes. More of that. Also liked the small info bits at the start. Maybe some more int the next video about it?
This is more like a rally track than a race track. Having pacenotes would help a lot especially with those hairpins.
Props to editor for using drift city music
Every time Wirt said "I forget the track" I was tossing popcorn at the screen going "yeah that's why rally drivers have map readers!!"
8:02 PASTA HOUSE
I was here when the original title was "𓎢𓅱𓆯𓅂𓂋𓇋𓈖𓎼 𓏏𓉔𓅂 𓈎𓉔𓅲𓆑𓅲 𓊪𓇌𓂋𓄿𓅓𓇋𓂧 𓇋𓈖 𓅓𓄿𓇌𓅱𓈖𓄿𓇋𓋴𓅂"
does that say mayonnaise in heiroglyphs
for the curious: "Covering the kufu pyramid in mayonnaise"
Bang.
Pikes peak, yay!
I live in Colorado, so it's really fun to see one of the mountains I look at very frequently get modeled into a game I have. The colors and geography is spot on!
Driving this track on sim is wild. It's genuinely terrifying, and it's shockingly easy to go off the mountain when you get higher up and the trees fade away.
If anyone is interested in this track specifically, try it in Asetto Corsa for the most real experience and in Dirt Rally 2.0 for the most intense experience. Trust me, driving this with a fully electric car in cockpit view was insane, trying to go for a fast time is so much fun you completly forget you drive a 20KM long track in Dirt Rally ^^
It’s insane how quickly he can learn maps honestly.
Would love to see him push for wr on this tho
Can confirm this is horrifying to drive even when you’re just trying to get up the mountain.
Watching Wirtual's discovery of this map reminds me of that video of a rally car driver and his navigator shouting at him "Concentrate Samir!"
As others have said driving pikes peak has multiple challenges. You have weather that can be completely different at the top then at the bottom. But the biggest challenge is the altitude and its effects on both the human body and the machine. Most drivers run some form of oxygen in their helmets so they dont pass out. Then as the car climbs it loses a significant amount of power due to the reduced oxygen level at altitude.
i hope they'll also make akina downhill for trackmania. wanna watch you drive down on takumi's iconic touge
Thank you for including music credits in the video, Bass!
Thank you bass for providing context in many places. I really appreciate it!
8:05 yoooo i Remember this BGM from Drift City.. Nice one!!!!
just in time for bed, now only if there was calming sliding in mayo noises
Ovulate rn
@ ?
@@kennyoffhenny I will.
@@Beatrify sorry nvm
This map is really accurate. I live in Colorado, and visited Pikes Peak once before when I was a kid. I don't remember it super well, but this is bringing back some memories I didn't know I still had.
Much love Wirtual! Would really enjoy seeing you hunt this track :D
2:07 if you think about your family at home you either brake too much or crash but cant drive.
theres no such thoughts in those moments. you dont cough or sneeze either - blinking is very conscious and reduced. yesterday and tomorrow and everybody else on this planet stops existing - theres just you and the next corner. one of the best antidepressants i found in life.
pulse is high not because of mental stress like fear or panic - its physical stress.
at 11:44 editor gets fired
People like to hang out in the hairpins partly for the improved view, but also so you can hear the car downshifting and then accelerating / upshifting out of there. The real fun in going to a race is listening to the cars bang through gears tbh.
Fun fact: it used to be all dirt! They drove freaking monsters up that mountain back then. The most notable in some circles is the Suzuki Pikes Peak Escudo.
If you haven't already go watch the Pikes Peak run of Walter Röhrl. Back in the time the whole track was gravel and no tarmac. Legendary
1987 is the year
The Ari Vatanen run is nice too, he won in 1988 :)
I really liked in the Gran Turismo 5 rally tracks, when you got to a turn they’d say a number and the direction of the turn. The higher the number the shallower the turn. It really helped plan the blind corners.
Example: if you reached a hairpin the game would say like “2 left” and if there were a wide turn they’d say “6 right”
Man covered in mayo slides up mountain
The resolution of the textures is bringing back Trackmania Canyon memories for me. Sick map
Does WR cut here at 21:45? There's no checkpoint so i think you could go straight on, but i don't know if the dirt and bumps slow you down too much